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Sennheiser net1 wireless interface
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bob urz
2007-12-10 02:18:21 UTC
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I am out on a christmas show with 23 wireless EW 550 series with this
new marvelous net1 interface. The only problem is i don't have the
right user manual to tell me how to hook it up to the laptop.
I know its some ip configuration thing, but the laptop does not
talk to the net1. Anybody got one of these and can tell me what
the network settings should be on the laptops ethernet port?
The downloadable manual is NOT the user guide that has this information
in it.

I am getting by doing it the old school way, but i would like to try
to use it if i could.

Bob
Mickey
2007-12-10 03:30:58 UTC
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Post by bob urz
I am out on a christmas show with 23 wireless EW 550 series with this
new marvelous net1 interface. The only problem is i don't have the
right user manual to tell me how to hook it up to the laptop.
I know its some ip configuration thing, but the laptop does not
talk to the net1. Anybody got one of these and can tell me what
the network settings should be on the laptops ethernet port?
The downloadable manual is NOT the user guide that has this information
in it.
I am getting by doing it the old school way, but i would like to try
to use it if i could.
I don't have one, but I looked at the manual for you. You just connect
it directly to the PC -- not to a hub. (You could undoubtedly use a crossover
cable and a hub, though, or use the "uplink" connector on the hub/switch.)

Once you have done this, turn on the Net1 and the units it runs. Then
start up the WSM software and it should establish communication.
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BOB Urz
2007-12-10 07:06:15 UTC
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Post by Mickey
Post by bob urz
I am out on a christmas show with 23 wireless EW 550 series with this
new marvelous net1 interface. The only problem is i don't have the
right user manual to tell me how to hook it up to the laptop.
I know its some ip configuration thing, but the laptop does not
talk to the net1. Anybody got one of these and can tell me what
the network settings should be on the laptops ethernet port?
The downloadable manual is NOT the user guide that has this information
in it.
I am getting by doing it the old school way, but i would like to try
to use it if i could.
I don't have one, but I looked at the manual for you. You just connect
it directly to the PC -- not to a hub. (You could undoubtedly use a crossover
cable and a hub, though, or use the "uplink" connector on the hub/switch.)
Once you have done this, turn on the Net1 and the units it runs. Then
start up the WSM software and it should establish communication.
--
Mickey
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Well, it did not work. I tried to go direct from the net1 to the
laptops ethernet port. Had the laptop set all automatic DHCP.
laptop wotked fine connected to a local lan on the same port
for internet, so the laptop port is working. I suspect the net1
might be looking for a fixed IP, or there is some connect sequence
i am missing. If i load the software, it comes up but never connects
and displays the hooked up devices.

Bob
Mickey
2007-12-10 13:21:55 UTC
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Post by BOB Urz
Post by Mickey
Post by bob urz
I am out on a christmas show with 23 wireless EW 550 series with this
new marvelous net1 interface. The only problem is i don't have the
right user manual to tell me how to hook it up to the laptop.
I know its some ip configuration thing, but the laptop does not
talk to the net1. Anybody got one of these and can tell me what
the network settings should be on the laptops ethernet port?
The downloadable manual is NOT the user guide that has this information
in it.
I am getting by doing it the old school way, but i would like to try
to use it if i could.
I don't have one, but I looked at the manual for you. You just connect
it directly to the PC -- not to a hub. (You could undoubtedly use a crossover
cable and a hub, though, or use the "uplink" connector on the hub/switch.)
Once you have done this, turn on the Net1 and the units it runs. Then
start up the WSM software and it should establish communication.
Well, it did not work. I tried to go direct from the net1 to the
laptops ethernet port. Had the laptop set all automatic DHCP.
laptop wotked fine connected to a local lan on the same port
for internet, so the laptop port is working. I suspect the net1
might be looking for a fixed IP, or there is some connect sequence
i am missing. If i load the software, it comes up but never connects
and displays the hooked up devices.
According to the manual at:

http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/icm_eng.nsf/resources/NET1_US.pdf/$File/NET1_US.pdf

I was looking at p. 15, and I quote:

The following applications with up to five NET 1 require the connection of
a PC :
Systems with up to 50 evolution wireless G2 rack-mount devices
Systems with up to 25 EM 3532 twin receivers
Mixed systems consisting of evolution wireless G2 devices and EM 3532
twin receivers

The MAC addresses of the NET 1 are indicated on the type plate .
Connect one of the sockets LAN 1 or LAN 2 of the first NET 1 to the
PC using an Ethernet cable.
Notes:
It is also possible to connect up to five NET 1 to a PC using a switch or a
router with switching function.
Do not use a network hub! Attempting to use a hub with NET 1 may
cause network failure or other data communications problems.
Then connect additional NET 1 via the sockets LAN 1 and LAN 2 using
Ethernet cables. The sockets LAN 1 and LAN 2 are identical, so it doesn't
matter in which order you connect them.

Then:

For reliable detection of rack-mount devices, we recommend the following
Post by BOB Urz
Switching the devices on
Switch on the devices connected to the NET 1.
Post by BOB Urz
Switching the NET 1 on
Press the ON/OFF switch to switch on the NET 1.

After switch-on, the green "READY" LED flashes, indicating that the NET 1
is being initialized. As soon as the NET 1 is ready for operation, the
"READY" LED lights up permanently.

If a connected device is detected by the NET 1, the corresponding green
"CHANNEL" LED lights up permanently and the infrared interface is
permanently backlit in blue.

Note:
It is OK to switch on all rack-mount devices and the NET 1 simultaneously
via a main switch if one exists.
Post by BOB Urz
Starting the "Wireless Systems Manager" software
Start the "Wireless Systems Manager" software as described in the
instructions for use of the software.
Once communication between the PC and the NET 1 is working properly,
the yellow "REMOTE" LED on the NET 1 (and on all daisy-chained NET 1)
lights up permanently.
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bob urz
2007-12-11 01:19:38 UTC
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Post by Mickey
Post by BOB Urz
Post by Mickey
Post by bob urz
I am out on a christmas show with 23 wireless EW 550 series with this
new marvelous net1 interface. The only problem is i don't have the
right user manual to tell me how to hook it up to the laptop.
I know its some ip configuration thing, but the laptop does not
talk to the net1. Anybody got one of these and can tell me what
the network settings should be on the laptops ethernet port?
The downloadable manual is NOT the user guide that has this information
in it.
I am getting by doing it the old school way, but i would like to try
to use it if i could.
I don't have one, but I looked at the manual for you. You just connect
it directly to the PC -- not to a hub. (You could undoubtedly use a crossover
cable and a hub, though, or use the "uplink" connector on the hub/switch.)
Once you have done this, turn on the Net1 and the units it runs. Then
start up the WSM software and it should establish communication.
Well, it did not work. I tried to go direct from the net1 to the
laptops ethernet port. Had the laptop set all automatic DHCP.
laptop wotked fine connected to a local lan on the same port
for internet, so the laptop port is working. I suspect the net1
might be looking for a fixed IP, or there is some connect sequence
i am missing. If i load the software, it comes up but never connects
and displays the hooked up devices.
http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/icm_eng.nsf/resources/NET1_US.pdf/$File/NET1_US.pdf
The following applications with up to five NET 1 require the connection of
Systems with up to 50 evolution wireless G2 rack-mount devices
Systems with up to 25 EM 3532 twin receivers
Mixed systems consisting of evolution wireless G2 devices and EM 3532
twin receivers
The MAC addresses of the NET 1 are indicated on the type plate .
Connect one of the sockets LAN 1 or LAN 2 of the first NET 1 to the
PC using an Ethernet cable.
It is also possible to connect up to five NET 1 to a PC using a switch or a
router with switching function.
Do not use a network hub! Attempting to use a hub with NET 1 may
cause network failure or other data communications problems.
Then connect additional NET 1 via the sockets LAN 1 and LAN 2 using
Ethernet cables. The sockets LAN 1 and LAN 2 are identical, so it doesn't
matter in which order you connect them.
For reliable detection of rack-mount devices, we recommend the following
Post by BOB Urz
Switching the devices on
Switch on the devices connected to the NET 1.
Post by BOB Urz
Switching the NET 1 on
Press the ON/OFF switch to switch on the NET 1.
After switch-on, the green "READY" LED flashes, indicating that the NET 1
is being initialized. As soon as the NET 1 is ready for operation, the
"READY" LED lights up permanently.
If a connected device is detected by the NET 1, the corresponding green
"CHANNEL" LED lights up permanently and the infrared interface is
permanently backlit in blue.
It is OK to switch on all rack-mount devices and the NET 1 simultaneously
via a main switch if one exists.
Post by BOB Urz
Starting the "Wireless Systems Manager" software
Start the "Wireless Systems Manager" software as described in the
instructions for use of the software.
Once communication between the PC and the NET 1 is working properly,
the yellow "REMOTE" LED on the NET 1 (and on all daisy-chained NET 1)
lights up permanently.
Thank to all for help. I got answers from multiple sources about the
same time. The unit is dumb. it does not have a fixed IP. it needs
a router to assign it a IP address. Put in a wireless router with 4
ports and connected the laptop to one port and the net1 to the other and
bingo!

Even cooler, i am backstage monitoring this. i patched a hard line out
of the router to FOH and we both now have access to the wireless data!

technology is great when it works.

Bob
Mickey
2007-12-11 15:22:01 UTC
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Post by bob urz
Thank to all for help. I got answers from multiple sources about the
same time. The unit is dumb. it does not have a fixed IP. it needs
a router to assign it a IP address. Put in a wireless router with 4
ports and connected the laptop to one port and the net1 to the other and
bingo!
That would have been my other guess, but the manual doesn't say a
thing about it needing a DHCP server.
Post by bob urz
Even cooler, i am backstage monitoring this. i patched a hard line out
of the router to FOH and we both now have access to the wireless data!
technology is great when it works.
8-)
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how I react to it. And so it is for you... we are in charge
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bob urz
2007-12-19 00:58:47 UTC
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Post by Mickey
Post by bob urz
Thank to all for help. I got answers from multiple sources about the
same time. The unit is dumb. it does not have a fixed IP. it needs
a router to assign it a IP address. Put in a wireless router with 4
ports and connected the laptop to one port and the net1 to the other and
bingo!
That would have been my other guess, but the manual doesn't say a
thing about it needing a DHCP server.
Post by bob urz
Even cooler, i am backstage monitoring this. i patched a hard line out
of the router to FOH and we both now have access to the wireless data!
technology is great when it works.
8-)
Just an update on the NET1 deal.
Its a neat device when it all works, but support is a problem if you
need to know something now. I had parts of my active display disappear
at times when it would initially come up. Sometimes it would not.

As far as i can tell, you must be cautious with it about IP addresses.
If your using a wireless router with it or other devices hooked up,
something else may have the same IP address and cause you to loose
contact with it.

We went the whole show run without a wireless failure or frequency
shift.We did adjust the squelch up on a few units that were set lower
than the rest. The sennie 550 lav packs get great battery life out of
the AA's. The ULXP's were flawless too, but a little more battery
hungry. We miked the Boston grand with a ULXP and DPA lav on a magnetic
mount on the sound board. Made for flawless movement with no cables in
the way.

Doing Clay Aken this weekend and it looks to be a train wreck in the
making.....


Bob

I did have some issues with pulling medical tape off op actors E6's.
It sticks to some heads better than others. One little girl it seems
always stuck so well that it hurt like hell getting the E6 off her.
Arny Krueger
2007-12-10 12:53:40 UTC
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Post by bob urz
I am out on a christmas show with 23 wireless EW 550
series with this new marvelous net1 interface. The only
problem is i don't have the right user manual to tell me
how to hook it up to the laptop.
Have you downloaded net1.pdf from the Senheiser web site,

http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/icm_eng.nsf/root/service_download

and followed the instructions starting on page 15, "Connecting a NET1 to a
PC"?

Sounds like maybe you have.

The manual for the WSM PC software is at

http://www.sennheiser.com/nordic/icm_no.nsf/resources/WSM_US.pdf/$File/WSM_US.pdf

Page six has the details about how to configure the PC network for WSM

I think this is one of the missing pieces that you have figured out that you
lack.

See how far this gets you and...

if there are further problems - bring them here and I'll try to help.
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