What's a good patchbay?

[b***@gmail.com]

I need a good patchbay for studio/live use but reading reviews on the
Behringer PX2000 I don't think I'll be able to use it. They say it has
crosstalk between channels. What patchbay is top quality at a fair
price for a TRS 1/4" bay with absolutely NO crosstalk?

Thanks

bleed comments:
http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Data/Behringer/ULTRAPATCH_PRO_PX2000-01.html

[Rupert]

The PX1000 may actually have the least amount of crosstalk, as the
channels are on individual cards that can be removed and flipped to
change the normalizing mode. Neutrik/REAN has the same type of cheap
patch bay, and they work ok. But I've also seen the cards crap out.
None of these cheap units will have the performance or reliability of a
good patch bay like Bittree, ADC, Switchcraft, etc. If you have the
time or inclination, you might consider getting a used patch bay by one
of the aforementioned companies and wiring it up. New, they can cost
over $1000. Mr. Patchbay sells them used pretty cheap:

http://home.flash.net/~motodata/patchbays/quarterinch.html

You can also find deals on Ebay.

Rupert

[b***@gmail.com]

I just spoke with Mr. Patchbay and he rates the Behringer patchbays as
low quality. I'm trying to find a patchbay that can be quickly /
easily configured from Full to Half normalled with a switch. Is there a
good quality brand that can do this?

[Rupert]

Post by b***@gmail.com
I just spoke with Mr. Patchbay and he rates the Behringer patchbays as
low quality. I'm trying to find a patchbay that can be quickly /
easily configured from Full to Half normalled with a switch. Is there a
good quality brand that can do this?

Bittree has models that can do this, using jumpers under the label
plates. They are not cheap, they are as good as patch bays come. I
doubt you will be willing to lay out the cash for these, but here's a
link to the bittree web site:

http://www.bittree.com

FWIW, non of the cheap patch bays are very good. But there is no high
quality patch bay that's quick to configure. The good ones require that
someone (you or the manufacturer) either solder wires, use punch downs,
or ELCO E series crimp pins to construct the harness that comes out of
the back. Bittree will build to order whatever you like for a price.

Rupert

[Dan Mills]

Post by b***@gmail.com
I just spoke with Mr. Patchbay and he rates the Behringer patchbays as
low quality. I'm trying to find a patchbay that can be quickly /
easily configured from Full to Half normalled with a switch. Is there a
good quality brand that can do this?

Switches add a lot of extra contacts!
Personally, If I was going there, I would avoid A gauge patch bays, and go
with B gauge or even bantam.

Some of the B gauge ones have jumpers inside to configure them but most of
these tend to be solder or EDAC termination to the loom.

I don't think I have ever seen an A gauge jack field from any manufacturer
that was reliable after a few years. It can be done in B gauge (with good
servicing) but you have to make bloody sure that no prat plugs A gauge
plugs into it (They fit but cause damage)....

Regards, Dan.

[b***@gmail.com]

Sweetwater just agreed that the Behringer patchbays were not good and
also said the Neutrik was good but the Samson S-Patch Plus was better
because of the switches on the front for convenience. It appears that
Behringer like Mackie has some products that shine brighter than others.

[Tim Scott]

Post by b***@gmail.com
Sweetwater just agreed that the Behringer patchbays were not good

Who is sweetwater?

Post by b***@gmail.com
It appears that Behringer like Mackie has some products that shine
brighter than others.

Of course, and if you check the archive of the group at google, you will see
that this has already been stated about Behringer.
In general this statement if true of any company's products.

[b***@gmail.com]

sorry, sweetwater.com is one of our pro audio companies in USA

[shannon]

Post by b***@gmail.com
I need a good patchbay for studio/live use but reading reviews on the
Behringer PX2000 I don't think I'll be able to use it. They say it has
crosstalk between channels. What patchbay is top quality at a fair
price for a TRS 1/4" bay with absolutely NO crosstalk?
Thanks
http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Data/Behringer/ULTRAPATCH_PRO_PX2000-01.html

Try the PX3000 balanced version so you can keep the shields separated.
Setting up a system with a patchbay requires you to think about the
grounding in various combinations. Its crosstalk will be dependent on
the system components, not intrinsic to the unit itself.

[Michael R. Kesti]

Post by b***@gmail.com
I need a good patchbay for studio/live use but reading reviews on the
Behringer PX2000 I don't think I'll be able to use it. They say it has
crosstalk between channels. What patchbay is top quality at a fair
price for a TRS 1/4" bay with absolutely NO crosstalk?

There is absolutely NO such thing.

Post by b***@gmail.com
Thanks

MmmHmm