Martin F12, Turbosound TXD-121, EV S200, EV SX300 .. opinions?

[Mark]

Which would be best suited for FOH tops (standard rock bands,
small/medium clubs) ?

The TXD-121 seems loudest (128db peak)

vs

Martin F12's 126db peak

vs

EV S200 122db (not sure if thats peak or program).

vs

EV SX300's 126db peak

I already have some EV S200's as people probably know by now because I
ask far too many questions about there usage.

From what I've reads, the Martins sound a bit smoother than the TXD's.
I'm thinking both would be a fair amount louder than the S200's partly
due to the cab size. I'd go for quality over volume, so thinking Martin
F12's at the moment. Not sure where the SX300's fit in amongst all
this. The advantage of those is weight I suppose, but again, I'd choose
quality over weight.

Any comments? Anything I've missed that is easily available in the UK?

How do all of these compare to say EAW? None of them are MI bullcrap
are they? The Turbosounds seem too cheap to be good! They aren't a
million miles away from my JBL SF15's price wise, EEEK!

Cheers,

Mark.
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[Rob Beech]

Post by Mark
Which would be best suited for FOH tops (standard rock bands,
small/medium clubs) ?
The TXD-121 seems loudest (128db peak)
vs
Martin F12's 126db peak
vs
EV S200 122db (not sure if thats peak or program).
vs
EV SX300's 126db peak
I already have some EV S200's as people probably know by now because I
ask far too many questions about there usage.
From what I've reads, the Martins sound a bit smoother than the TXD's.
I'm thinking both would be a fair amount louder than the S200's partly
due to the cab size. I'd go for quality over volume, so thinking Martin
F12's at the moment. Not sure where the SX300's fit in amongst all
this. The advantage of those is weight I suppose, but again, I'd choose
quality over weight.
Any comments? Anything I've missed that is easily available in the UK?
How do all of these compare to say EAW? None of them are MI bullcrap
are they? The Turbosounds seem too cheap to be good! They aren't a
million miles away from my JBL SF15's price wise, EEEK!
Cheers,
Mark.
--

Personally (and its only an opinion) i'd choose the Martin audio stuff over
the rest of them anyday.

The turbosound range is a "budget" range they have recently brougth out. but
they're not too bad for th money. EV SX200 throw out alot of sound for teh
box size. SX300 the same (little better sounding IMO) but aside from all
this i'd still go with teh F12.

ROb

[George Gleason]

Post by Rob Beech
Personally (and its only an opinion) i'd choose the Martin audio stuff over
the rest of them anyday.
The turbosound range is a "budget" range they have recently brougth out. but
they're not too bad for th money. EV SX200 throw out alot of sound for teh
box size. SX300 the same (little better sounding IMO) but aside from all
this i'd still go with teh F12.
ROb

I've never used any of them(these specific boxes) but martin and turbo
products I have used have easily out performed ev stuff I have used

Used meyer upa's should not be hard to find in your price range
It is one of the best small boxes ever made.bar none
George

[Dave Walsh]

Post by George Gleason

Post by Rob Beech
Personally (and its only an opinion) i'd choose the Martin audio stuff over
the rest of them anyday.
The turbosound range is a "budget" range they have recently brougth out. but
they're not too bad for th money. EV SX200 throw out alot of sound for teh
box size. SX300 the same (little better sounding IMO) but aside from all
this i'd still go with teh F12.
ROb

I've never used any of them(these specific boxes) but martin and turbo
products I have used have easily out performed ev stuff I have used
Used meyer upa's should not be hard to find in your price range
It is one of the best small boxes ever made.bar none
George

Funktion One Res 1s will astound you
Dave W.

[Mark]

Post by George Gleason

Post by Rob Beech
Personally (and its only an opinion) i'd choose the Martin audio stuff over
the rest of them anyday.
The turbosound range is a "budget" range they have recently brougth out. but
they're not too bad for th money. EV SX200 throw out alot of sound for teh
box size. SX300 the same (little better sounding IMO) but aside from all
this i'd still go with teh F12.
ROb

I've never used any of them(these specific boxes) but martin and turbo
products I have used have easily out performed ev stuff I have used
Used meyer upa's should not be hard to find in your price range
It is one of the best small boxes ever made.bar none
George

Do you not need a controller for that though?

Mark.
--

[George Gleason]

Post by Mark

Post by George Gleason

Post by Rob Beech
Personally (and its only an opinion) i'd choose the Martin audio stuff over
the rest of them anyday.
The turbosound range is a "budget" range they have recently brougth out. but
they're not too bad for th money. EV SX200 throw out alot of sound for teh
box size. SX300 the same (little better sounding IMO) but aside from all
this i'd still go with teh F12.
ROb

I've never used any of them(these specific boxes) but martin and turbo
products I have used have easily out performed ev stuff I have used
Used meyer upa's should not be hard to find in your price range
It is one of the best small boxes ever made.bar none
George

Do you not need a controller for that though?
Mark.
--

No
there is one available, but it is not required
George

[Mark]

Post by George Gleason

Post by Mark

Post by George Gleason

Post by Rob Beech
Personally (and its only an opinion) i'd choose the Martin audio stuff over
the rest of them anyday.
The turbosound range is a "budget" range they have recently brougth out. but
they're not too bad for th money. EV SX200 throw out alot of sound for teh
box size. SX300 the same (little better sounding IMO) but aside from all
this i'd still go with teh F12.
ROb

I've never used any of them(these specific boxes) but martin and
turbo products I have used have easily out performed ev stuff I have
used
Used meyer upa's should not be hard to find in your price range
It is one of the best small boxes ever made.bar none
George

Do you not need a controller for that though?
Mark.
--

No
there is one available, but it is not required
George

Interesting, I wonder what difference it makes. So without the
processor you still reckon it outperforms things like the Martin F12, EV
SX300, etc..?

Is it the UPA-1A or UPA-1C I want considering my application? The
UPA-1A seems to be cheaper for some reason. They are 12" drivers aren't
they in both?

Cheers,

Mark.
--

[Ron(UK)]

Post by Mark

Post by George Gleason

Post by Mark

Post by George Gleason

Post by Rob Beech
Personally (and its only an opinion) i'd choose the Martin audio stuff over
the rest of them anyday.
The turbosound range is a "budget" range they have recently brougth out. but
they're not too bad for th money. EV SX200 throw out alot of sound for teh
box size. SX300 the same (little better sounding IMO) but aside from all
this i'd still go with teh F12.
ROb

I've never used any of them(these specific boxes) but martin and
turbo products I have used have easily out performed ev stuff I have
used
Used meyer upa's should not be hard to find in your price range
It is one of the best small boxes ever made.bar none
George

Do you not need a controller for that though?
Mark.
--

No
there is one available, but it is not required
George

Interesting, I wonder what difference it makes. So without the
processor you still reckon it outperforms things like the Martin F12, EV
SX300, etc..?
Mark.

In my humble opinion, I don't think you can class the Martin enclosure
and the EV SX300 in the same bracket. Side by side.

the Martin (IMO) sounds much smoother and polite, and the EV (as good
as they are) sounds like what it is,

a brash plastic box with that characteristic EV sound, maybe more suited
to their intended application.

Ron

[Mark]

Post by Ron(UK)

Post by Mark

Post by George Gleason

Post by Mark

Post by George Gleason

Post by Rob Beech
Personally (and its only an opinion) i'd choose the Martin audio stuff over
the rest of them anyday.
The turbosound range is a "budget" range they have recently brougth out. but
they're not too bad for th money. EV SX200 throw out alot of sound for teh
box size. SX300 the same (little better sounding IMO) but aside from all
this i'd still go with teh F12.
ROb

I've never used any of them(these specific boxes) but martin and
turbo products I have used have easily out performed ev stuff I
have used
Used meyer upa's should not be hard to find in your price range
It is one of the best small boxes ever made.bar none
George

Do you not need a controller for that though?
Mark.
--

No
there is one available, but it is not required
George

Interesting, I wonder what difference it makes. So without the
processor you still reckon it outperforms things like the Martin F12,
EV SX300, etc..?
Mark.

In my humble opinion, I don't think you can class the Martin enclosure
and the EV SX300 in the same bracket. Side by side.

Judging by what I've read, I would tend to agree (even without
listening), but I was curious about there ability without the processor.

Post by Ron(UK)
a brash plastic box with that characteristic EV sound, maybe more suited
to their intended application.

Is a *brash* plastic box suited for any application? ;-)

My intended application is SR in small/medium clubs. I hate brash, so
maybe I should avoid the SX300's and go the extra mile..

Cheers,

Mark.
--

[Ron(UK)]

Post by Mark

Post by Ron(UK)
In my humble opinion, I don't think you can class the Martin enclosure
and the EV SX300 in the same bracket. Side by side.

Judging by what I've read, I would tend to agree (even without
listening), but I was curious about there ability without the processor.

Post by Ron(UK)
a brash plastic box with that characteristic EV sound, maybe more
suited to their intended application.

Is a *brash* plastic box suited for any application? ;-)
My intended application is SR in small/medium clubs. I hate brash, so
maybe I should avoid the SX300's and go the extra mile..
Cheers,
Mark.
--

Well, they cut through typical pub audience noise pretty well, they have
quite a piercing top end and a "brown coloured" low end, so they sound
ok to the uneducated ear in a typical bar situation. They work quite
well outdoors also, I`ve done quite large outdoor areas with four SX`s
on stands. They are rugged too, you can knock em about quite a bit
without them coming to much harm, tho the monitor feet break easily and
cost 20 quid each!

IMO the RCF Art300 is a much nicer speaker and cheaper, tho maybe
mechanically the cabinet isn`t quite so rugged, they are a bit less 'in
yer face' than SX`s

Ron

www.lunevalleyaudio.com

[George Gleason]

Post by Mark

Post by George Gleason
No
there is one available, but it is not required
George

Interesting, I wonder what difference it makes. So without the
processor you still reckon it outperforms things like the Martin F12, EV
SX300, etc..?
Is it the UPA-1A or UPA-1C I want considering my application? The
UPA-1A seems to be cheaper for some reason. They are 12" drivers aren't
they in both?
Cheers,
Mark.
--

yes you can use any crossover
the meyer crossover was more about protection than ultimate sound quality
it had a dynamic crossover point that moved according to the power sent
to the speaker
I have been running meyers speakers on assortments of crossovers for years
currently the behringerr dcx2496 has proven to be a excellent unit
much better than my DBX DR 260 or my old Bss omni

the main difference I am aware of(though I have only got this info
second hand) is the C is a update from the A and used the newer JBL
2450 HF driver
they are both 12's
and can be mixed with equal sound quality
I can refer you to someone who recently took most of my advice and
outfitted themselves with the meyers
though they opted for the meyer processor
George

[Mark]

Post by George Gleason
I have been running meyers speakers on assortments of crossovers for years
currently the behringerr dcx2496 has proven to be a excellent unit
much better than my DBX DR 260 or my old Bss omni

Thats quiet a surprise. Just to be clear, you find it better than an
Omnidrive FDS 355 for instance? In what way? Not bashing, just curious.

Post by George Gleason
the main difference I am aware of(though I have only got this info
second hand) is the C is a update from the A and used the newer JBL
2450 HF driver

From what I gather, the C is a different dispersion pattern.

Post by George Gleason
I can refer you to someone who recently took most of my advice and
outfitted themselves with the meyers

That might be good nearer the decision time. It is a question of
whether the quality difference is worth the price difference. I suspect
it is. I often find (cheaper) speakers a little harsh in the upper end
for my ears anyway, so perhaps these will help that.

Cheers for your help!

Mark.
--

[George Gleason]

Post by Mark

Post by George Gleason
I have been running meyers speakers on assortments of crossovers for years
currently the behringerr dcx2496 has proven to be a excellent unit
much better than my DBX DR 260 or my old Bss omni

Thats quiet a surprise. Just to be clear, you find it better than an
Omnidrive FDS 355 for instance? In what way? Not bashing, just curious.

It had all the functions I required takes up only one rack space and
costs 1/10th the price
iit earned me money right out of the box the 355 didnt
if two tools do the job your require equally well the cheaper one is better

Post by Mark

Post by George Gleason
the main difference I am aware of(though I have only got this info
second hand) is the C is a update from the A and used the newer JBL
2450 HF driver

From what I gather, the C is a different dispersion pattern.

I apologize there we two patterns a thingth conical horn and a wide
flared horn as well, my brain was not engaged so early
(it still is a bit foggy)

Post by Mark

Post by George Gleason
I can refer you to someone who recently took most of my advice and
outfitted themselves with the meyers

That might be good nearer the decision time. It is a question of
whether the quality difference is worth the price difference. I suspect
it is. I often find (cheaper) speakers a little harsh in the upper end
for my ears anyway, so perhaps these will help that.
Cheers for your help!
Mark.
--

[Mark]

Post by George Gleason
It had all the functions I required takes up only one rack space and
costs 1/10th the price
iit earned me money right out of the box the 355 didnt
if two tools do the job your require equally well the cheaper one is better

Sounds logical to me!

Post by George Gleason
I apologize there we two patterns a thingth conical horn and a wide
flared horn as well, my brain was not engaged so early
(it still is a bit foggy)

No problem :-) I think the "C" is the wide flared horn, it
unfortunately is also a fair amount more expensive. I imagine the
dispersion of the "A" might still be enough though? (I suppose I could
just look it up!).

Mark.
--

[George Gleason]

Post by Mark

Post by George Gleason
It had all the functions I required takes up only one rack space and
costs 1/10th the price
iit earned me money right out of the box the 355 didnt
if two tools do the job your require equally well the cheaper one is better

Sounds logical to me!

Post by George Gleason
I apologize there we two patterns a thingth conical horn and a wide
flared horn as well, my brain was not engaged so early
(it still is a bit foggy)

No problem :-) I think the "C" is the wide flared horn, it
unfortunately is also a fair amount more expensive. I imagine the
dispersion of the "A" might still be enough though? (I suppose I could
just look it up!).
Mark.
--

to tell the truth I always have to look it up as the meyers part numbers
really don't make sense to me
George

[George Gleason]

Post by Mark

Post by George Gleason
No
there is one available, but it is not required
George

Interesting, I wonder what difference it makes. So without the
processor you still reckon it outperforms things like the Martin F12,
EV SX300, etc..?
Is it the UPA-1A or UPA-1C I want considering my application? The
UPA-1A seems to be cheaper for some reason. They are 12" drivers
aren't they in both?
Cheers,
Mark.
--

sorry for posting before breakfast

I will need to check the meyers history to be sure but I am under the

impression the UPA1A is a powered version of the older UPA1 and should
be much more expensive

[Mark]

Post by George Gleason

Post by Mark

Post by George Gleason
No
there is one available, but it is not required
George

Interesting, I wonder what difference it makes. So without the
processor you still reckon it outperforms things like the Martin F12,
EV SX300, etc..?
Is it the UPA-1A or UPA-1C I want considering my application? The
UPA-1A seems to be cheaper for some reason. They are 12" drivers
aren't they in both?
Cheers,
Mark.
--

sorry for posting before breakfast
I will need to check the meyers history to be sure but I am under the
impression the UPA1A is a powered version of the older UPA1 and should
be much more expensive

I think the UPA-1P is the powered one (its all they have on there
website, they seem to just do the powered version and nothing else these
days).

Cheers,

Mark.
--

[Mark]

Post by George Gleason

Post by Mark

Post by George Gleason
No
there is one available, but it is not required
George

Interesting, I wonder what difference it makes. So without the
processor you still reckon it outperforms things like the Martin F12,
EV SX300, etc..?
Is it the UPA-1A or UPA-1C I want considering my application? The
UPA-1A seems to be cheaper for some reason. They are 12" drivers
aren't they in both?
Cheers,
Mark.
--

sorry for posting before breakfast
I will need to check the meyers history to be sure but I am under the
impression the UPA1A is a powered version of the older UPA1 and should
be much more expensive

Wait a minute.. from what I've read, you HAVE to bi-amp the speaker, as
in, it has no internal crossover? Is that correct? That means I need
to use both channels of an amp to drive the thing! :-( I was only going
to bi-amp 2 way, 1 into a sub, 1 into a top box, per stack.

Mark.
--

[George Gleason]

Post by Mark

Post by George Gleason

Post by Mark

Post by George Gleason
No
there is one available, but it is not required
George

Interesting, I wonder what difference it makes. So without the
processor you still reckon it outperforms things like the Martin
F12, EV SX300, etc..?
Is it the UPA-1A or UPA-1C I want considering my application? The
UPA-1A seems to be cheaper for some reason. They are 12" drivers
aren't they in both?
Cheers,
Mark.
--

sorry for posting before breakfast
I will need to check the meyers history to be sure but I am under the
impression the UPA1A is a powered version of the older UPA1 and should
be much more expensive

Wait a minute.. from what I've read, you HAVE to bi-amp the speaker, as
in, it has no internal crossover? Is that correct? That means I need
to use both channels of an amp to drive the thing! :-( I was only going
to bi-amp 2 way, 1 into a sub, 1 into a top box, per stack.
Mark.
--

bi-amping is a important way of increasing sound quality
and you are correct NO internal crossover
George

[Mark]

Post by George Gleason

Post by Mark

Post by George Gleason

Post by Mark

Post by George Gleason
No
there is one available, but it is not required
George

Interesting, I wonder what difference it makes. So without the
processor you still reckon it outperforms things like the Martin
F12, EV SX300, etc..?
Is it the UPA-1A or UPA-1C I want considering my application? The
UPA-1A seems to be cheaper for some reason. They are 12" drivers
aren't they in both?
Cheers,
Mark.
--

sorry for posting before breakfast
I will need to check the meyers history to be sure but I am under the
impression the UPA1A is a powered version of the older UPA1 and
should be much more expensive

Wait a minute.. from what I've read, you HAVE to bi-amp the speaker,
as in, it has no internal crossover? Is that correct? That means I
need to use both channels of an amp to drive the thing! :-( I was
only going to bi-amp 2 way, 1 into a sub, 1 into a top box, per stack.
Mark.
--

bi-amping is a important way of increasing sound quality
and you are correct NO internal crossover
George

Ok. Hmm, I imagine you have to be pretty careful with the HF feed from
the amp. I suppose you just keep the volume the same, and the crossover
will feed in the appropriate levels for the HF (sorry, I'm a bit new to
bi-amping tops!).

So basically, I'm looking at 3 amps to drive 2 Meyer tops in stereo and
mono subs.

Cheers,

Mark.
--

[Ron(UK)]

Post by Mark

Post by George Gleason

Post by Mark
Wait a minute.. from what I've read, you HAVE to bi-amp the speaker,
as in, it has no internal crossover? Is that correct? That means I
need to use both channels of an amp to drive the thing! :-( I was
only going to bi-amp 2 way, 1 into a sub, 1 into a top box, per stack.
Mark.
--

bi-amping is a important way of increasing sound quality
and you are correct NO internal crossover
George

Ok. Hmm, I imagine you have to be pretty careful with the HF feed from
the amp. I suppose you just keep the volume the same, and the crossover
will feed in the appropriate levels for the HF (sorry, I'm a bit new to
bi-amping tops!).
So basically, I'm looking at 3 amps to drive 2 Meyer tops in stereo and
mono subs.
Cheers,
Mark.
--

Isn't there at least a blocking capacitor to help protect the hf driver?

Ron

[George Gleason]

Post by Mark

Post by George Gleason
bi-amping is a important way of increasing sound quality
and you are correct NO internal crossover
George

Ok. Hmm, I imagine you have to be pretty careful with the HF feed from
the amp. I suppose you just keep the volume the same, and the crossover
will feed in the appropriate levels for the HF (sorry, I'm a bit new to
bi-amping tops!).
So basically, I'm looking at 3 amps to drive 2 Meyer tops in stereo and
mono subs.
Cheers,
Mark.
--

with the meyer processor you have no control besides the amp input
attenuator to control level to specific drivers
all active(in your rack) crossovers will give you output control to each
band pass
Ideally you want 5 channels of amps to do stereo with mono sub
but you could(I dON"T reccommend it) get away with two amp channels for
the two hf devices
one channel for both 12's and one channel for both subs
providing your amops are of sufficent power
most stereo info is transmitted through the hf devices
you would still have significant stereo spread even with the mids and
subs in mono
I do not recommend this though
with amps as cheap as they are today there is no reason not to have the
amps you need
George

[Mark]

Post by George Gleason

Post by Mark

Post by George Gleason
bi-amping is a important way of increasing sound quality
and you are correct NO internal crossover
George

Ok. Hmm, I imagine you have to be pretty careful with the HF feed
from the amp. I suppose you just keep the volume the same, and the
crossover will feed in the appropriate levels for the HF (sorry, I'm a
bit new to bi-amping tops!).
So basically, I'm looking at 3 amps to drive 2 Meyer tops in stereo
and mono subs.
Cheers,
Mark.
--

with the meyer processor you have no control besides the amp input
attenuator to control level to specific drivers
all active(in your rack) crossovers will give you output control to each
band pass
Ideally you want 5 channels of amps to do stereo with mono sub
but you could(I dON"T reccommend it) get away with two amp channels for
the two hf devices
one channel for both 12's and one channel for both subs
providing your amops are of sufficent power
most stereo info is transmitted through the hf devices
you would still have significant stereo spread even with the mids and
subs in mono
I do not recommend this though
with amps as cheap as they are today there is no reason not to have the
amps you need
George

Yes, I think running mids mono would be last resort for me.

Thanks again for your advice!

Cheers,
Mark.
--

[George Gleason]

Post by Mark

Post by George Gleason
with the meyer processor you have no control besides the amp input
attenuator to control level to specific drivers
all active(in your rack) crossovers will give you output control to
each band pass
Ideally you want 5 channels of amps to do stereo with mono sub
but you could(I dON"T reccommend it) get away with two amp channels
for the two hf devices
one channel for both 12's and one channel for both subs
providing your amops are of sufficent power
most stereo info is transmitted through the hf devices
you would still have significant stereo spread even with the mids and
subs in mono
I do not recommend this though
with amps as cheap as they are today there is no reason not to have
the amps you need
George

Yes, I think running mids mono would be last resort for me.
Thanks again for your advice!

It is really only something you do if you have a amp failure mid show
with no back-up
George

[Mark]

Post by George Gleason

Post by Mark

Post by George Gleason
with the meyer processor you have no control besides the amp input
attenuator to control level to specific drivers
all active(in your rack) crossovers will give you output control to
each band pass
Ideally you want 5 channels of amps to do stereo with mono sub
but you could(I dON"T reccommend it) get away with two amp channels
for the two hf devices
one channel for both 12's and one channel for both subs
providing your amops are of sufficent power
most stereo info is transmitted through the hf devices
you would still have significant stereo spread even with the mids and
subs in mono
I do not recommend this though
with amps as cheap as they are today there is no reason not to have
the amps you need
George

Yes, I think running mids mono would be last resort for me.
Thanks again for your advice!

It is really only something you do if you have a amp failure mid show
with no back-up
George

Hmm so basically we are talking about £1000 difference here (about $1850
-ish) for the extra speaker cost (used Meyer vs new Martins) and the
cost of the extra amp used. Are we talking a lot of quality difference
here to say, the Martin F12's or RCF ART 300's?

I know some of it is subjective and all that, however I'm just wondering
how much difference there actually is. Obviously with all the money in
the world I'd get the best no matter how small the difference is! But
as it stands I have to be careful. Obviously the ideal solution is to
audition them all, so I'm going to try and do that; but in the meantime,
I'd really appreciate some thoughts on the differences between all these
systems.

Cheers!

Mark.
--

[Phildo]

Post by Mark
Ok. Hmm, I imagine you have to be pretty careful with the HF feed from
the amp. I suppose you just keep the volume the same, and the crossover
will feed in the appropriate levels for the HF (sorry, I'm a bit new to
bi-amping tops!).
So basically, I'm looking at 3 amps to drive 2 Meyer tops in stereo and
mono subs.

Just remember the HF amp will be a lot less powerful than the LF one so
won't cost as much.

Look at the Behringer power amps for the cheapest decent solution.

Phildo

[Mark]

Post by Phildo
Just remember the HF amp will be a lot less powerful than the LF one so
won't cost as much.
Look at the Behringer power amps for the cheapest decent solution.

Thats a very good point.

I did figure though that to make sure you getting the correct mix
between LF and HF, that you'd use the same amp and have both channels
set to the same level (even though because of the output from the active
cross-over, I imagine the output level of the HF would be a lot lower,
in the correct proportion).

Is it common to do it with different power amps? If so, is it fairly
easy to balance the system by ear?

Cheers,

Mark.
--

[Steve White]

Post by Mark
Which would be best suited for FOH tops (standard rock bands,
small/medium clubs) ?

Hey Mark,

Would you give me a shout if you decide to sell the SX300s?

Cheers,
Steve W

[Ian McKeown]

Post by Mark
Which would be best suited for FOH tops (standard rock bands,
small/medium clubs) ?
The TXD-121 seems loudest (128db peak)
vs
Martin F12's 126db peak
vs
EV S200 122db (not sure if thats peak or program).
vs
EV SX300's 126db peak
I already have some EV S200's as people probably know by now because I
ask far too many questions about there usage.
From what I've reads, the Martins sound a bit smoother than the TXD's.
I'm thinking both would be a fair amount louder than the S200's partly
due to the cab size. I'd go for quality over volume, so thinking Martin
F12's at the moment. Not sure where the SX300's fit in amongst all
this. The advantage of those is weight I suppose, but again, I'd choose
quality over weight.
Any comments? Anything I've missed that is easily available in the UK?
How do all of these compare to say EAW? None of them are MI bullcrap
are they? The Turbosounds seem too cheap to be good! They aren't a
million miles away from my JBL SF15's price wise, EEEK!
Cheers,
Mark.

The Turbos are great value for the money and do sound very well, but I
prefer EV Sx300 to either the TXD121 or the Martins. The only time I mixed
on F12s I struggled to get vocal clarity, but maybe that was down to a badly
set up install. A major step up from these would be the 10" Turbosound TQ310
or as George mentioned the Meyers. A good source of used gear in the UK is
www.crystalpro.demon.co.uk or www.bonza.co.uk

Regards
Ian

[zipsound]

Void Acoustics' Basys: http://www.voidaudio.com/BASYS.asp
all in one 126 dB max. 2200 euro. ready to rumble. rog mogale's
product.

[Kurt Albershardt]

Post by zipsound
Void Acoustics' Basys: http://www.voidaudio.com/BASYS.asp
all in one 126 dB max. 2200 euro. ready to rumble. rog mogale's
product.

At that price, you could have one of the new EAW NT boxes (powered.)

[Phildo]

Post by Ian McKeown
A good source of used gear in the UK is
www.crystalpro.demon.co.uk

Ah yes, Pete Brotzman or Brotweiler as we used to call him.

Worked under him at Brit Row. Nice guy and worth doing business with.

Phildo