Post by RupertPost by JWald----
Post by Phildohttp://www.thebuttkicker.com/musicians/products/bk_concert.htm
Anyone suggest a reliable amp that would be good for this?
Phildo
why not a ep4000 they are rock solid at 2 ohms, they have the power you
need and a spare channel for a wedge as well
george
I'm glad this came up. I bought a butt-kicker a few years ago, but could
never get satisfactory results. I was feeding it 1200w from one side of an
EP2500 from an aux send of my kick channel. Every time I got it where I felt
it, it was clipping the crap out of the amp. I gave up, but would REALLY
like to use it. What was I doing wrong? Thanks.
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J Wald
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Tom Hagen
Godfather I
One thing about 2 ohm stereo/4 ohm bridge loads for low frequency
reproduction, especially with cheap amps, the amps often don't put out
the juice the specs would indicate. It's often far less. I suspect the
amp is really not able to put out the rated power into a 2 ohm load
when reproducing the low frequencies you want. You might find and old
Crest or Crown amp. They weigh a ton, but they're also kings of
driving low impedance, low frequency reproduction loads. A Crest 8001
isn't rated with much more output than the EP2500 (1400 watts into 2
ohms/ch), but it has handily stomped all over cheaper amps rated with
more power per channel - especially in subwoofer applications. In
fact, it will easily outperform these newer Crown XTi amps rated at
double the power. Or even the newer lighter Crest amps of comparable
power that replaced it. A older Crown MA3600VZ would also do a good
job. These amps hold their value though, so expect to pay 2x the price
of the Behringer amps even though they're 10+ years old now.
That is not my experiance, crown amps have held NOTHING except cost over the
behringer of equal power
Crests just freaking physically self destructed (8002's,FA series)
my Powersofts were ultra sensitive to humidity and as such unsuitable for
outdoor road use
the amps that have held up have been QSC and Behringer
This is my experiance, as the owner of over 70 amps in my career, ymmv
George
Yes George, we've all heard your incessant whining about Crest and
Crown amps. The FACT is that of the 20 or so sound companies I've
managed, tech'd, crew chief'd and owned over the last 35 years, the
old school Crest & Crown amps have been VERY reliable and very
powerful. They've held up to some real abuse in hundreds of venues and
tours over DECADES and many of those are still in operation today. And
they likely will be when your Behringers are in scrap heap. And pretty
much every person I know involved in top level tour and installation
over the 3+ decades agrees. So the only conclusion I can draw is YOU
are doing something wrong. Either that or you are the ONLY one who's
right & EVERYONE else is wrong. Is THAT what you're saying George?
Those amps have been an industry standard for a reason you know
George. Recommended by everyone from Meyer to EAW to L'Acoustics when
they were current products because they perform. Only recently has
L'Acoustics moved away from the old Crown MA series and amps to the
newer Camco amps is because they don't make them anymore. And let me
tell you, they kicked some ass on the VDOSC system. Next you'll be
telling everyone that your tired old Meyer MSL3 speakers with the
piezo tweeters are better than anything else out there.
K